Election 2008

[countrypkin65]

The U.S. election is only a few short months away. Just between us Startsamplers, I thought it would be neat to see how we all here will be voting this November, and for which party. Take the poll so we can get an idea on where the country stands.......via startsampling!

[ilove2sample]

It will be neat to see how the SS group compares to the actual final outcome. Thanks Pam!!! I voted! :D

[Cpogie]

I voted...:)

[utkd29]

I voted too!:p

[mom363546]

thanks I voted

[bvanpeltsw]

Where is the "none of the above" button??:p

[bvanpeltsw]

Wow I am shocked that McCain is in the lead.......:eek:

[Jess0587]

Where is the "none of the above" button??:p

That's what I'm saying!!!!

[countrypkin65]

Where is the "none of the above" button??:p

Ha ha....ya know, I was gonna put that in, and also thought about "write-in" but changed it to simply, undecided!!

[momsangel]

Ha ha....ya know, I was gonna put that in, and also thought about "write-in" but changed it to simply, undecided!!


could use the none of the above one;) :D

[countrypkin65]

anyone make up/change their minds yet? :D

[bvanpeltsw]

I have known for a LONG time who I was voting for. I am ready for this election to be over with.

[nc_mom71]

My mind has been made up for quite some time now.

I am proud to say I support Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

[Jess0587]

I have made my decision a while ago, but everyday my decision becomes more and more obvious to me as to which candidate will be best for our future.

[utkd29]

I have made my decision a while ago, but everyday my decision becomes more and more obvious to me as to which candidate will be best for our future.

LOL same here!

[nc_mom71]

The most important thing is that this year, more than ever, people are getting involved and taking a real interest in our countires elections. Our younger generation is coming out in record numbers to support both sides of election and it is wonderful. No matter who wins this election, the one good thing that has happened is that our children are motivated now to get involved and educated themselves in the process and they are more likely to stay involved from here on out.

[Jess0587]

That is a great point! I totally agree!

[Cartoonchik03]

Thanks, I voted! You know who ever does end up in office they are going to have a great BIG mess to clean up....

[mkrebecca]

I voted today!!!
But make sure you all get out and vote on November 4th!!!

[giraf98]

Voted today!

I haven't ever voted for President....yes I know it's MY fault Bush is in office!.... The first thing I did when we moved to Nebraska was register to vote! I'm definitely voting in this election!

[danajc83]

I am so ready for the election to be over with so that whoever gets in office can show us what they are made of....

[wbarker]

I voted. Like some others, I'm ready for this to be over - I'm tired of hearing all the "bad" publicity that is slung back and forth. We've known from day 1 who we were voting for, and the info that comes out just cements our choice. I must say though that I think sometimes it is a matter of chosing the lesser of two evils as I've heard some relatives say. Some things being talked about are just plain scary!

[Jess0587]

I am so ready for the election to be over with so that whoever gets in office can show us what they are made of....

Me too!!!!!! Soon enough though, it will be over.

[Jess0587]

Does anyone plan on watching the debate tonight?

[danajc83]

Me too!!!!!! Soon enough though, it will be over.
Yes it will and i will definitely be early voting this year! Last election I stood in line 2 or more hours just to vote. So get out there and early vote!!

[danajc83]

Does anyone plan on watching the debate tonight?
I might since it is right here in Nashville at Belmont!!

[Jess0587]

Yes it will and i will definitely be early voting this year! Last election I stood in line 2 or more hours just to vote. So get out there and early vote!!

I think my work is talking about closing the office that day... maybe! So I hope they do, so we can all get our votes in quick!

When does the early voting start?

[Jess0587]

I might since it is right here in Nashville at Belmont!!

Is it really!? I didn't know that, lol :o

[danajc83]

I think my work is talking about closing the office that day... maybe! So I hope they do, so we can all get our votes in quick!

When does the early voting start?
i think it starts in the next couple of weeks, not exactly sure on a date.

[Jess0587]

i think it starts in the next couple of weeks, not exactly sure on a date.

K, I will see if I can find out.

[danajc83]

Is it really!? I didn't know that, lol :o
It sure is! McCain got in town last night late. So don't travel anywhere near Belmont tonight cause roads will be blocked for quite some time.

[Jess0587]

It sure is! McCain got in town last night late. So don't travel anywhere near Belmont tonight cause roads will be blocked for quite some time.

Too cool!!!!! :D Wish I could go up there!

[danajc83]

Too cool!!!!! :D Wish I could go up there!
Yea it would be cool just to go and sit in on a debate!

[Jess0587]

Yea it would be cool just to go and sit in on a debate!

It really would! :)

[kuanyin1]

Does anyone plan on watching the debate tonight?

I watched the First Presidential and the VP debate and will be watching tonight as well. Tonights debate is a townhall debate in which all of the questions are from the audience and people online.

I've known since the primaries who I was voting for...I have lived in Illinois since 1994 and have been very familiar with Obama's record as a IL state senator, and as a result I worked for his opponents's campaign in the 2004 US Senate election. I've watched what he has done since being in the Senate and thats partly why there is a McCain/Palin sign in my yard, as well as signs for local and state candidates.

I also just signed on for another 2 year term as an election judge.

[utkd29]

I watched the First Presidential and the VP debate and will be watching tonight as well. Tonights debate is a townhall debate in which all of the questions are from the audience and people online.

I've known since the primaries who I was voting for...I have lived in Illinois since 1994 and have been very familiar with Obama's record as a IL state senator, and as a result I worked for his opponents's campaign in the 2004 US Senate election. I've watched what he has done since being in the Senate and thats partly why there is a McCain/Palin sign in my yard, as well as signs for local and state candidates.

I also just signed on for another 2 year term as an election judge.

Woo Hoo well said!

[Cpogie]

I watched the First Presidential and the VP debate and will be watching tonight as well. Tonights debate is a townhall debate in which all of the questions are from the audience and people online.

I've known since the primaries who I was voting for...I have lived in Illinois since 1994 and have been very familiar with Obama's record as a IL state senator, and as a result I worked for his opponents's campaign in the 2004 US Senate election. I've watched what he has done since being in the Senate and thats partly why there is a McCain/Palin sign in my yard, as well as signs for local and state candidates.

I also just signed on for another 2 year term as an election judge.

Well said, and thank you for being involved as an election judge. My mom use to work the elections years ago.

[Jess0587]

I watched the First Presidential and the VP debate and will be watching tonight as well. Tonights debate is a townhall debate in which all of the questions are from the audience and people online.

I've known since the primaries who I was voting for...I have lived in Illinois since 1994 and have been very familiar with Obama's record as a IL state senator, and as a result I worked for his opponents's campaign in the 2004 US Senate election. I've watched what he has done since being in the Senate and thats partly why there is a McCain/Palin sign in my yard, as well as signs for local and state candidates.

I also just signed on for another 2 year term as an election judge.

I agree with Carol and Dee, well said!! What's it like being an election judge? Sounds interesting. :)

[kuanyin1]

I agree with Carol and Dee, well said!! What's it like being an election judge? Sounds interesting. :)

Its a long, busy day...the polls here open at 6:00am and close at 7:00pm...we have to be at the polling place at 5:30 at the latest to set up for the day and we usually don't get out of there until 8:30-9:00pm. I take a big bag of snacks and drinks, and a friend usually brings me lunch. We have to keep the lines moving smoothly, make sure election laws and procedures are followed, help answer questions and provide assistance to the elderly and disabled -all while remaining neutral and non-partisian during the day, it can be really hard to read the ballot questions to a person and not put tone or inflection in the voice or influence "our" choices....we get paid $110 for the days work.

[Jess0587]

Its a long, busy day...the polls here open at 6:00am and close at 7:00pm...we have to be at the polling place at 5:30 at the latest to set up for the day and we usually don't get out of there until 8:30-9:00pm. I take a big bag of snacks and drinks, and a friend usually brings me lunch. We have to keep the lines moving smoothly, make sure election laws and procedures are followed, help answer questions and provide assistance to the elderly and disabled -all while remaining neutral and non-partisian during the day, it can be really hard to read the ballot questions to a person and not put tone or inflection in the voice or influence "our" choices....we get paid $110 for the days work.


Wow! I can only imagine how hard it might be sometimes, to stay neutral and then to deal with the public. Kudos to you! and good pay!

[mkrebecca]

Thanks for this info!!! Nicely put! I knew since the primaries who I was voting for also. I have always wanted to put a sign in my yard and this year I will get to!! I just hope the girl will hurry up and get it here!

[MandMnmbr3]

I voted on the poll right after Pam put it up. Haven't changed my mind on who I am going to vote for Pres. (and now VP)

I have a friend from high school who knows one of the persons running for VP personally. She lives right around the lake from them. She told me, what you see is what you get! (Meaning that in a good way!):) I had already made up my mind when I spoke to her, but her input sealed the deal for me and my family!

I have a S-I-L and family who live in IL, their sentiments are the same as kuanyin's.

Hugs,
Mae

[bvanpeltsw]

I know the track record of both candidates and it appears my opinion is VERY different than most of you here. I have an Obama sign in my yard and I knew from the very beginning who I was voting for. I will leave it at that.:)

[VanillaBean]

I just got my Obama pin and Obama sticker in the mail the last few days and am so excited!!!!! But I really want a sign for my yard!!!!!!!!!:(

[Jess0587]

Where can one get a sign for there yard???

[VanillaBean]

I don't know really???????? I see them in other yards and get so frustrated because I really really want one sooooo bad!!!

[Jess0587]

Me too!!! I think I will ask my fellow neighbors!

[VanillaBean]

If and when ya find out- can ya let me know please?...Sure would appreciate it!!!! Thanks

[Jess0587]

I've been asking around here at my work, and for around here, it is a few different places, and one being the Republican Party office and Democratic Party office... maybe check with where you would register to vote :confused:

[kuanyin1]

Where can one get a sign for there yard???

Call your local parties office, they will tell you where to pick one up.

[Jess0587]

Call your local parties office, they will tell you where to pick one up.

Thanks for clarifying that for me! ;)

[Motherofthree]

Call your local parties office, they will tell you where to pick one up.

Yep, that's how my Mom found out! ;)

[bvanpeltsw]

I just got my Obama pin and Obama sticker in the mail the last few days and am so excited!!!!! But I really want a sign for my yard!!!!!!!!!:(

I can mail you one LOL! I just picked up 30 today from the local Obama office.:D You can do a google search for your local office and you can pick one up.

I ordered 2000 Obama pins and bumper stickers for a rally next week. My living room is full of boxes.:eek:

[katiriaka]

IF Obama wins, it would be perfect to play "How far we've come" by Matchbox Twenty. its got a great beat and it fits perfectly. I love Rob Thomas! LOL

[Grumpy]

Where would one find a NOBAMA yard sign? would L O V E one of them.

[Jess0587]

Where would one find a NOBAMA yard sign? would L O V E one of them.

I haven't seen an actual yard sign, but my boss has a NObama sticker on her vehicle, and she got hers from our local parties office.

[countrypkin65]

Obamas friends are showing their support!!!!
2490

[Borinquen]

I voted also...

I heard some where that the republicans have been in power since 1964 and the democrats only twice (clinton 8 years)...so what can we Conclude???

[bvanpeltsw]

Obamas friends are showing their support!!!!
2490

There is no humor in that at all.

[bvanpeltsw]

I voted also...

I heard some where that the republicans have been in power since 1964 and the democrats only twice (clinton 8 years)...so what can we Conclude???

I conclude that it is time for a change.

[gmcommgrad]

What politicians fear... I'm educated, a woman, & I vote!

[Jess0587]

Obamas friends are showing their support!!!!
2490

LOL, I actually do see the humor side of this, and not just b/c of who I have chosen to vote for. You could take it a couple different ways. Looks like some may have taken offense. :rolleyes:

[Jess0587]

I voted also...

I heard some where that the republicans have been in power since 1964 and the democrats only twice (clinton 8 years)...so what can we Conclude???

I am actually democratic, but I do understand that the kind of change Obama is going for is definitely not going to help, but only hurt us. It's not necessarily about Democratic or Republican presidents, it's about the choices they make. I think McCain has a much better understanding of what we need.

[Jess0587]

All I want to say is: People, please do your deapest research possible on these two people! This is so far, the most important election of our lifetime. We can not afford to be ignorant about our decisions. Choose wisely!!! Whatever your belief's or whatever, go with the facts!

[mkrebecca]

I am actually democratic, but I do understand that the kind of change Obama is going for is definitely not going to help, but only hurt us. It's not necessarily about Democratic or Republican presidents, it's about the choices they make. I think McCain has a much better understanding of what we need.

I agree 100%!!! We need to put aside the Democratic and Republican matters and pick the right person for the job!!!!

[utkd29]

Only 19 more days until election! It is so very important that everyone vote!!

[SSIAnkie]

I voted! :confused: :confused:

[utkd29]

I voted! :confused: :confused:

LOL I meant in the election! Sorry I have been watching election coverage all morning, guess I just got a little excited!:o

[danajc83]

I am going to go vote on Monday!!

[gmcommgrad]

I agree 100%!!! We need to put aside the Democratic and Republican matters and pick the right person for the job!!!!

Exactly! That's why I am in full support of Obama/Biden.

:D

[utkd29]

Was the debate last night televised? All I am hearing on Fox news is about how "one" person blew it. I wish I would have watched it.

[VanillaBean]

Speaking Of McCain- for people who are for him- here is a little research to do on him- put in your search box:

Lincoln Savings and Loans- Keatings

Read about what happened and who took the fall for all the money and who got away with it all!!!!

[Jess0587]

Was the debate last night televised? All I am hearing on Fox news is about how "one" person blew it. I wish I would have watched it.

Yes, the debate was last night! I'm telling you, people really need to get educated a little better on this! This is getting serious!

[Jess0587]

Speaking Of McCain- for people who are for him- here is a little research to do on him- put in your search box:

Lincoln Savings and Loans- Keatings

Read about what happened and who took the fall for all the money and who got away with it all!!!!


Read Revelations in the Bible.

[utkd29]

Yes, the debate was last night! I'm telling you, people really need to get educated a little better on this! This is getting serious!


Was it televised? From what the News is saying last night was the night that turned it all around.... :o

[Jess0587]

Was it televised? From what the News is saying last night was the night that turned it all around.... :o

Yes it was televised. We are all doomed!!!!!!!

[danajc83]

Was it televised? From what the News is saying last night was the night that turned it all around.... :o
If you want to see clips you can go to Youtube.com and search for it and it will give you clips of the debates.

[utkd29]

Yes it was televised. We are all doomed!!!!!!!
I am confident the person I am voting for is going to win! :)

[Jess0587]

I am confident the person I am voting for is going to win! :)

I hope so!!!

[VanillaBean]

Read Revelations in the Bible.

So are you saying that if McCain won the Presidency- it will be the end of the world????????? I might have to agree on that!! :)

and also Jess- do you research the article at all?

[Jess0587]

So are you saying that if McCain won the Presidency- it will be the end of the world????????? I might have to agree on that!! :)

The other way around... Obama fits the descriptions stated in Revelations :)

[VanillaBean]

So you haven't read the article- well thats too bad- it would give you some insight to the person YOU want to be Pres- like his involvement in embezzlement of his( Arizonas residents) peoples money!!!

[Jess0587]

So you haven't read the article- well thats too bad- it would give you some insight to the person YOU want to be Pres- like his involvement in embezzlement of his( Arizonas residents) peoples money!!!

I am aware of what you are talking about. Although, parts of it is turned around. There are lots of things you should double check with who you are voting for. Are you for drilling for oil inside the US?

[VanillaBean]

I am for all ways of cleaner and safer energy for our country and for our environment- as for drilling offshores- we would not have enough oil to compensate our demand for it- drilling would only take the edge off our consumption use- so we need to lookinto other means of getting our energy- what we don't need is a President who helps the BIG OIL and keeps making us dig deeper into our pockets while enrichening theirs!!!

[danajc83]

I think we all could find some good and bad things that BOTH candidates have done and there is no need in going back and forth because no one is going to change anyones mind. the important thing here is that we are all educated women that are getting out there and voting! But i am sure no one will listen to me and i am sure i will be further entertained by this thread lol.

[Jess0587]

I think we all could find some good and bad things that BOTH candidates have done and there is no need in going back and forth because no one is going to change anyones mind. the important thing here is that we are all educated women that are getting out there and voting!

Thank you , I do agree, they both have a past and have made good and bad decisions. No one will change my mind on this. My heart is being lead to vote for one imparticular and that's what I'm going to do.

[danajc83]

Thank you , I do agree, they both have a past and have made good and bad decisions. No one will change my mind on this. My heart is being lead to vote for one imparticular and that's what I'm going to do.
You have a right to be passionate about what you believe that is what makes this country so great despite its flaws!

[Jess0587]

You have a right to be passionate about what you believe that is what makes this country so great despite its flaws!

Yep. What's an election for if everyone had the same opinions! I'm not trying to change people's minds or push my belief's or whatever on anyone. I'm just trying to state some of the facts that I know have been around for a VERY long time.

[danajc83]

Yep. What's an election for if everyone had the same opinions! I'm not trying to change people's minds or push my belief's or whatever on anyone. I'm just trying to state some of the facts that I know have been around for a VERY long time.
So when you going to go vote?

[Jess0587]

So when you going to go vote?

Hopefully on Monday morning!

[danajc83]

Hopefully on Monday morning!
I am going sometime on Monday too! I learned my lesson from the last election to never wait until the official voting day to vote. I stood in line for a few hours to vote last time. I am just ready for the election to be over with!

[Jess0587]

I am going sometime on Monday too! I learned my lesson from the last election to never wait until the official voting day to vote. I stood in line for a few hours to vote last time. I am just ready for the election to be over with!

Gosh! Hopefully people are learning and are going to try and vote early from now on, if possible. I'm ready for it to be over with too!

[mkrebecca]

Can someone please explain to me how the gas prices are affected by the election!!! I have heard several people say that the reason for the lower gas prices is because we are getting close to the election!!!

[Cpogie]

I am so sick of hearing these darn polls that have already predicted a winner...why can't they shut the H up and let people decide for themselves! Some people are turned off by these predictions and will not vote. Whoever you vote for is a personal choice, please don't be swayed by the polls, vote for who you think will do the best job.

[momsangel]

I am so sick of hearing these darn polls that have already predicted a winner...why can't they shut the H up and let people decide for themselves! Some people are turned off by these predictions and will not vote. Whoever you vote for is a personal choice, please don't be swayed by the polls, vote for who you think will do the best job.



Thank you,Carol.I couldn't agree more!

[Jess0587]

I am so sick of hearing these darn polls that have already predicted a winner...why can't they shut the H up and let people decide for themselves! Some people are turned off by these predictions and will not vote. Whoever you vote for is a personal choice, please don't be swayed by the polls, vote for who you think will do the best job.

I'm sick of the polls too!! I agree, people... vote for you who think will do the best job. Not just voting for who your mom and dad are voting for.

[mkrebecca]

Everytime they say whats going on in those polls, it makes me worry even more!!! I just PRAY that right person will be elected!!!

[ALawicki]

I can't believe that McCain admitted that if the elect was only on the things they will do about the economy that he would lose. Why would you say that about yourself when the last debate is over the economy problems?! I think he kind of put himself into a hole with quite a lot of people for saying that.

I didn't know that about the Republicans being the the office since 1964 besides Clinton. That is crazy.

Education is so important for our country and I am glad that they are making it a big part of the debate and election. That (since it is my future career) is what I listen to the most. They made it the last part of this debate, but it was good because it made me listen in until the end. I have to say that the debates they gave on education just made me sure on who I am voting for!:D

Early election, can we do that anywhere? I know where I am registered to vote at, but I don't think they have early voting. I have not been over there since before high school:eek: Anyone know? I need to look it up.

[ALawicki]

Was the debate last night televised? All I am hearing on Fox news is about how "one" person blew it. I wish I would have watched it.

go to www.mydebates.org and you can watch all of them.

[imalittletoenail]

yes, the republicans have been in the office of the presidency since 1964, except carter and clinton...but this has nothing to do with anything at all...this country just doesn't work like that...what about the house and the senate? the president doesn't have all the control...

[Jess0587]

Early election, can we do that anywhere? I know where I am registered to vote at, but I don't think they have early voting. I have not been over there since before high school:eek: Anyone know? I need to look it up.

Yes, early voting has started where we are.

[VanillaBean]

Vanillabean- thanks for the article, it is a good thing for people to read. I didn't know he was apart of that, so it was nice to know that.




Well you are quite welcome-I am glad to see that people are reading up on it!!

[ALawicki]

Yes, early voting has started where we are.

Well depending on your country depends on where you can vote. I found where I have to go though. I am going to try and go Saturday before our busy weekend. I have class the day of the actual vote and my teacher won't excuse me to go vote:mad: :rolleyes:

[VanillaBean]

Forgive me but that just seems so ridiculous that she won't excuse you to go vote??!!!!!!! What is this world coming to?

[jessiegirl]

I am really happy that voting in Oregon is 100% by mail! It makes life so much easier for everyone.

[danajc83]

Well depending on your country depends on where you can vote. I found where I have to go though. I am going to try and go Saturday before our busy weekend. I have class the day of the actual vote and my teacher won't excuse me to go vote:mad: :rolleyes:
You should be able to go to the public library and early vote. but if you are registered in Wilson county then the community center is where you will early vote.

[ALawicki]

You should be able to go to the public library and early vote. but if you are registered in Wilson county then the community center is where you will early vote.

Ya I have to go to MJ for it. Seth gets to go right down the dang street.:rolleyes:

[lovechocolate]

A little off topic,.. you must have all heard about Rep. John Murtha, who called western Pennsylvania "a racist area."
Why do I suspect that this guy is playing mind games! Hey, perhaps they'll go vote for Obama so people will not accuse them of being racist, even though the values they believe in is more like McCain's"
Voters beware. Do not let anyone coerce you to vote different from where your heart is.

[countrypkin65]

I am completely outraged about the busing in of mexicans/possibly illegals on Friday in Tennessee...(in Nashville) that did NOT have proper ID, only voter registration cards. None of them could provide ID, such as license, registration, credit cards etc...anything with signature etc. to show who they were.
They could NOT speak english...which is a requirment to become a citizen and vote in our country. English speaking persons, (most likely Democrat) drove them in buses, and admitted that they, (mexicans) could not speak english, and that they would go into booth and translate to them.....lwhich they did. Who knows what they translated...but this is completely wrong. wrong. wrong.
No one knew what to do, so they just let them go......and more busses are expected daily.
Someone....someone with Morals, legal expertice, and respect for the future of our voting system, needs to do something about this, and soon, before it ruins our country.
What does this mean for "our" votes? Our legitimate votes? They will not count if we have so many illegal votes in the system. Where is the fairness?
You can be rest assured, that if the Republicans were the ones responsible for the illegal votes....something would be done about it asap.

[GeorgiaMom]

I'm not sure anyone will answer this, but it's a simple question and I'm gonna ask it anyway...:)

Would you rather live in a country where you are free to make your own decisions and control your own future, or would you rather have your hand held along the way while someone else makes the majority of your decisions for you?

[jessiegirl]

I am sad to say I miss the deadline to register and vote by just a few months.
However, I am proud to say I made my boyfriend register to vote, and have convinced my Mother who doesn't always vote, to vote this year! Basically my job in the family has been to make sure everyone votes, I will sign seal and deliver that ballot as long as they fill it out!

It makes me happy because my voice is being heard through theirs, as we all support the same person!

[kuanyin1]

Speaking Of McCain- for people who are for him- here is a little research to do on him- put in your search box:

Lincoln Savings and Loans- Keatings

Read about what happened and who took the fall for all the money and who got away with it all!!!!

John McCain was cleared of wrong doing in the Keating Scandal.

[utkd29]

John McCain was cleared of wrong doing in the Keating Scandal.
YES he was!!

Some people just can't seem to let things go! :rolleyes:

There are always going to be rumors going around each person running.

[countrypkin65]

Go to the local library and check out Obama's books....(or in Walmart isleS)!! you can read in his own words

In book, Dreams from My Father "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

In book, Dreams from My Father "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."


In book, Dreams from My Father "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

[Cpogie]

Pam, it's all about $$ and power. It's ashame that anyone running for office has to spend outrageous amounts (multi millions) to get elected to an office that pays $400,000 a year.
I am appalled at the way the debates were run also. They didn't ask any of the important questions like health care, social security, the borders, the ecomomy, etc....I am sick of the whole process!

[VanillaBean]

John McCain was cleared of wrong doing in the Keating Scandal.

Keating and McCain have been long time friends and Keating lied to save McCains butt!!!!! Keatings said that Mcain had nothing to do with the scandal yet McCain recieved a lot of money from the downfall of this whole thing!!

[kuanyin1]

Obama's opposition to the IL Born Alive Act:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

[kuanyin1]

Keating and McCain have been long time friends and Keating lied to save McCains butt!!!!! Keatings said that Mcain had nothing to do with the scandal yet McCain recieved a lot of money from the downfall of this whole thing!!

Barack Obama has been friends with William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn (Ayers's wife) a long time too; in fact Michelle Obama and Dohrn worked at the same Chicago law firm (Sidley & Austin) in 1988.

[jessiegirl]

Lets get real for a second, we can sit here and point fingers about whose done what and whose the bad person but they both have done some not great things and have been involved in some iffy stuff however they both have worked hard for their country at the same time.
I may strongly support one person but I think politics brings out the ugly in people. Everyone thinks they are right and that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is wrong... I mean its America we are all entitled to our own opinions and feelings but in the end one of these two men are going to be elected, like it or not.

Sorry, I just sense some tension here. I hate to see the ugly politics brings with it.

[Jess0587]

Lets get real for a second, we can sit here and point fingers about whose done what and whose the bad person but they both have done some not great things and have been involved in some iffy stuff however they both have worked hard for their country at the same time.
I may strongly support one person but I think politics brings out the ugly in people. Everyone thinks they are right and that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is wrong... I mean its America we are all entitled to our own opinions and feelings but in the end one of these two men are going to be elected, like it or not.

Sorry, I just sense some tension here. I hate to see the ugly politics brings with it.


Thank you, I agree. I was slapped around on here for a minute the other day. And thought it was awfully childish. B/c it was simply my opinion and that's all there was to it. People like to analyze and get offended when someone doesn't agree. Looks like a lot of people on here have already made up there mind of who they are voting for. So lets leave it at that and not throw things up in each others face about what each of the candidates have done wrong and all that. B/c after all, we are not the ones running for president (thank God), McCain and Obama are running. Let them do the fighting.

[ALawicki]

Thank you, I agree. I was slapped around on here for a minute the other day. And thought it was awfully childish. B/c it was simply my opinion and that's all there was to it. People like to analyze and get offended when someone doesn't agree. Looks like a lot of people on here have already made up there mind of who they are voting for. So lets leave it at that and not throw things up in each others face about what each of the candidates have done wrong and all that. B/c after all, we are not the ones running for president (thank God), McCain and Obama are running. Let them do the fighting.

If you are talking about me "slapping you around", I was simply asking you to explain your thoughts. I understand everyone has their own opinions, and I told you that. I just wanted to understand where you were coming from because I didn't understand. That is another problem with threads like this, you don't understand how someone means something by simply reading it. If you are in a bad mood, you will take it in a bad way. Sometimes we all just need to sit back and breathe before we reply.

I have not thrown my opinion out there on who I am voting for because I don't think I should have to defend or justify why I am voting for a certain person. I know people can get ugly on this topic, so I chose to keep mine to myself. The constant bashing of the candidates and their pasts is killing me. All that matters is what they are going to do for our country. Everyone has mistakes in their past, and we have to forget those things. But I agree that the debates were not done like they should have been. I felt like the debates were only bashing what each other did/said, and then them trying to explain what really happened. I don't think they really explained what they are going to do for us and our country during the debates like they normally do.:rolleyes: I just have a hard time believing what both of them say because I am tired of candidates saying they will do this and do that, and once they get to be the president they don't do what they say.:mad:

[Borinquen]

Starts Today I'll go on Thurd... my day off...Just to avoid the crowds...

[bvanpeltsw]

My mom ALWAYS told me to NEVER discuss politics and religion with anyone. I do not even discuss it with friends because it always ends up with drama.

I think this whole thread is a prime example of that. We are all very opinionated people and not very tolerant of the opinions of others. I think we have all decided who we are voting for and posting negative things about Obama and McCain will not change that.

If you want to speak your mind---GO VOTE! That is the best example you can set for yourself and others.

[momsangel]

My mom ALWAYS told me to NEVER discuss politics and religion with anyone. I do not even discuss it with friends because it always ends up with drama.

I think this whole thread is a prime example of that. We are all very opinionated people and not very tolerant of the opinions of others. I think we have all decided who we are voting for and posting negative things about Obama and McCain will not change that.

If you want to speak your mind---GO VOTE! That is the best example you can set for yourself and others.


Exactly my point as well, Brandy.... I have only posted once to thank Carol, however;I do not believe in talking POLITICS< RELIGION Nor Money, it never turns out to be a PRODUCTIVE conversation

[Cpogie]

Exactly my point as well, Brandy.... I have only posted once to thank Carol, however;I do not believe in talking POLITICS< RELIGION Nor Money, it never turns out to be a PRODUCTIVE conversation

Exactly, we get enough of this BS just from TV..;)

[bvanpeltsw]

Exactly my point as well, Brandy.... I have only posted once to thank Carol, however;I do not believe in talking POLITICS< RELIGION Nor Money, it never turns out to be a PRODUCTIVE conversation

LOL even money in relationships with SO's is sometime an issue! My parents ended their marriage because of it!

[Cpogie]

LOL even money in relationships with SO's is sometime an issue! My parents ended their marriage because of it!

Wow, that must of been really serious! That is one thing we have never fought about, ever. If we have the money we do what we want, if we don't then we do without.

[Jess0587]

Me, dbf and his mom are going to vote after work today!!

[kuanyin1]

Me, dbf and his mom are going to vote after work today!!

Great, thanks for voting :)

Saturday night, one of my yard signs somehow got torn up and was in the middle of the street so my landlord went down to headquarters and replaced it with one of the REALLY big signs lol.

[Jess0587]

Great, thanks for voting :)

Saturday night, one of my yard signs somehow got torn up and was in the middle of the street so my landlord went down to headquarters and replaced it with one of the REALLY big signs lol.

That sure was nice of your land lord!! Wonder what those people think now!?! :eek: :p

[we3kings]

Great, thanks for voting :)

Saturday night, one of my yard signs somehow got torn up and was in the middle of the street so my landlord went down to headquarters and replaced it with one of the REALLY big signs lol.

That sure was nice of your land lord!! Wonder what those people think now!?! :eek: :p

They are probably thinking, how am I going to get that big sign down? lol :p

[ALawicki]

Going to early vote tonight before going to visitations.:o

[Jess0587]

Me, dbf and his mom are going to vote after work today!!

I didn't end up getting to go as planned that day. But I did vote this morning, so I've done my part!! :D

[ALawicki]

Just heard the line in MJ to early vote is over 2 hours! Guess I will be going to Lebanon to vote after visitations because they said peopel think they close at 4:00 so it slows down alot.:rolleyes: I just don't understand why it is not an excused absence for college students. Don't they want to encourage us to vote?

[utkd29]

Tomorrow is the last day to early vote. That's why the lines are so long.

[Cpogie]

We voted today by absentee ballots.

[imalittletoenail]

hubby and i early voted today...there was quite a line, but it went very fast...my job is done!

[Jess0587]

hubby and i early voted today...there was quite a line, but it went very fast...my job is done!

Yep, there was a huge line when I went first thing this morning, but it went very fast! I was in and out in and hour and a half!

[VanillaBean]

Did anyone watch this? If so what were your thoughts? I watched it and was extremely surprised and found it very informative- and makes my decision that much stronger on who I am voting for!!!

[Brbie]

It made me even more proud of who I am voting for. It was well spent money, that was donated by his supporters. :)

[VanillaBean]

I couldnt agree with you more!! It actually made me get teary eyed in a few spots!! WOW was all I could think and feel after watching it!!

[ALawicki]

Did anyone watch this? If so what were your thoughts? I watched it and was extremely surprised and found it very informative- and makes my decision that much stronger on who I am voting for!!!

I didn't see it. I will have to watch it. I heard about it but was busy last night. I am interested to see what he had to say though. We ended up taking longer at the visitations last night than planned so I don't get to vote until election day. Guess I will be getting there at about 6:45 in the morning to get at the front of the line.:rolleyes:

[imalittletoenail]

Did anyone watch this? If so what were your thoughts? I watched it and was extremely surprised and found it very informative- and makes my decision that much stronger on who I am voting for!!!

i thought it was a pathetic attempt to pull at the heart strings of the American people...fortunately, there are some that can see right through it...
hey, you asked...

[gatito]

lol i voted !! ...............the only thing i will say about this is, i can NOT vote for someone who does not believe in the same God i do, i am not saying same religion, i am saying same God....

[danajc83]

i thought it was a pathetic attempt to pull at the heart strings of the American people...fortunately, there are some that can see right through it...
hey, you asked...
Yea it literally made me sick to my stomach to watch.

[danajc83]

lol i voted !! ...............the only thing i will say about this is, i can NOT vote for someone who does not believe in the same God i do, i am not saying same religion, i am saying same God....
I agree 100% with you!!!!

[Jess0587]

Yea it literally made me sick to my stomach to watch.

That's why I didn't bother! Knew it would be a waste of money and time.

I agree 100% with you!!!!

ME TOO WANDA!!!

[mkrebecca]

lol i voted !! ...............the only thing i will say about this is, i can NOT vote for someone who does not believe in the same God i do, i am not saying same religion, i am saying same God....

AMEN SISTER!!!!!
I just wish everyone would see that!!! We need to put our values FIRST!!!!!

[cooking4]

There is only one choice as far as I am concerned! (McCain & Palin) He is the only one with enough experience and has fought with his life for this country. He will bring this country together along with the economy without increasing your taxes. Got to go, I am working for the Republican party and reminding people to cast their vote on Tuesday!

[mkrebecca]

My MIL is so crazy!! the only reason she in NOT voting for McCain is because she thinks he is to OLD!! She says she has not gotten a job because of her age and now she will not vote for an older person!! she is so CRAZY!!!!

[Jess0587]

My MIL is so crazy!! the only reason she in NOT voting for McCain is because she thinks he is to OLD!! She says she has not gotten a job because of her age and now she will not vote for an older person!! she is so CRAZY!!!!

WHAT! Then she just doesn't need to vote all together!

[mkrebecca]

WHAT! Then she just doesn't need to vote all together!

thats what I told her! Maybe she will forget to go. I am going to keep her busy that day with Emily!!

[Jess0587]

thats what I told her! Maybe she will forget to go. I am going to keep her busy that day with Emily!!

LOL, I don't blame you one bit!! :p

[countrypkin65]

Quote:
Originally Posted by danajc83
Yea it literally made me sick to my stomach to watch.
Quote:
Originally posted by Jess0587
That's why I didn't bother! Knew it would be a waste of money and time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by danajc83
I agree 100% with you!!!!
Quote:
Originally posted by cooking4
There is only one choice as far as I am concerned! (McCain & Palin) He is the only one with enough experience and has fought with his life for this country. He will bring this country together along with the economy without increasing your taxes. Got to go, I am working for the Republican party and reminding people to cast their vote on Tuesday!

I agree w/all of you!
Now lets get real...how can we trust anyone that spends over $600 MILLION dollars on a campaign for a position that pays only $400,000. Why on earth isn't that money being put towards our country's DEBT.....or to help the poor, the sick, towards cancer cure, to feed the homeless, prevent poverty, animal welfare, environmental issues etc.

What does share the wealth REALLY mean? Welfare.
40% of all receipients of welfare are Black.
The biggest turn out for voter registration in the black community across America, is 2008.
Ask any Black American what Obama stands for.....the only answer you will get, is that they never thought they'd live to see the day.....blah, blah, blah.

I wouldn't mind if a Black American were voted in as President.....just not this one. Not with his political & radical ties, & his lack of experience & his background. He cannot make a speach on his own that is NOT unscripted. As far as his "eloquence"....even that is changing!! he is taking the "g" off of his words to suit his black majority, and is beginning to talk slang or "ebonics.
I even would've been happier to see Hillary become President.

[ALawicki]

Can we please quit with all the bashing of candidates?! It really isn't needed. Show your support for your candidate by voting, not by bashing the other. I am so tired of people putting one down. Everyone has their opinions and they are entitled to them, but talking about all of it on here is just causing tension and drama. So many people said how they have been taught to not talk about politics, and this is why. I don't because I don't feel like I should have to give reasons for my opinion. If I don't understand where someone is coming from, I will ask because I am interested in seeing where they are coming from, but that is about it. I hate the election just because of all the problems it causes between people. I can't wait for it to be over with. I feel like this thread has caused a few problems lately, and it is annoying. If someone states their opinion, don't jump on them, simply say you don't agree if you want. I won't say who I am voting for because I don't think that anyone has the right to tell me I am wrong or look down on me for it. Most of my friends don't even have an idea of who I am voting for, and it will stay that way. I just hate the constant bashing.:rolleyes:

[VanillaBean]

Really- all I did was asked who watched the darn TV program and again I get tons of posts about their choice- which would of been fine if done politically correct!!!!

And FYI- Barak Obama is NOT a Black American......he has both Caucasian and African American in his blood!!!!!!!!- To me he is just an American who is passionate about his Country- just as passionate as McCain- he just shows it in different ways than McCain!

[danajc83]

I agree with you he should not be considered a Black American! He is only 6% or something like that black, so basically he is just another white guy IMO!

[danajc83]

Did anyone watch this? If so what were your thoughts? I watched it and was extremely surprised and found it very informative- and makes my decision that much stronger on who I am voting for!!!
And you did ask who watched and for their opinions so you had to know that people would respond like this right!?!?!?!

[VanillaBean]

Yes I wanted their opinions of the show- not of who they are and why they are voting for...just asked about the show!!!!!!

[danajc83]

Yes I wanted their opinions of the show- not of who they are and why they are voting for...just asked about the show!!!!!!
okay i see what you mean but at the same time with how this thread has gone i think you kind of knew it would go this way.

[VanillaBean]

No- I make no assumptions on how people in this forum are going to behave....I have learned from past comments and posts to me to not EVER do that again!!

[bvanpeltsw]

Why are you guys even bothering with this? I seriously doubt anything ANYONE says will have ANY influence on ANY vote!

I will be soooo HAPPY when this *(*()#@*()$&%*(#&*()*()*() election is over!:mad:

[danajc83]

No- I make no assumptions on how people in this forum are going to behave....I have learned from past comments and posts to me to not EVER do that again!!
Oh okay, true you never know how people are going to respond and take things that is for sure.

[countrypkin65]

FYI...I don't give a crap whether obama is black, white, purple, blue or pink. Fact is...his skin color IS black. No differance to ME.
But, my point was.....that there ARE Blacks who are voting purely based on that fact. His skin color. Not by his political stances. Thee "blacks" in whole or part, do not care. They just want a "Black" man in office.

FYI...he had a Black .....excuse me, Politically correct would be "Negro" Kenyan father, Obama's mother was Caucasian.
Barack Obama is a mulatto. Several dictionaries define mulatto as: "The offspring of one white parent and one black parent; a person whose ancestry is a mixture of Negro and Caucasian."

"I" was not "bashing" Obama. There are quite a few facts that can be found through the proper resources.

As for Obama being "African-American," do people even understand that words have meaning? African-American isn't a race. Africa is a continent. American is a nationality, like being French (France), German (Germany) or Australian (Australia).

Theodore Roosevelt’s ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1917:
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American and nothing but an American. … There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. … We have room for but one language here and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
Theodore Roosevelt 1917

Every American citizen needs to read this (above) and fully understand it!

I don't intend, or imply intent, to change anyones opinions on their choice. However, I am using my freedom of speech, (or writing of it) while I still can. One, assuming to be of strong character, can be equally tolerable of both parties views. having said that.....Nothing ya'll say on here offends me.

I hope who ever does get in office, that they turn our country around for the better. I hope our freedoms aren't lost...or taken away, with the incumbant President. I also hope all those who have or will vote for whoever does get into office, that they don't cry about it once they do!!

[othermo]

everyone needs to remember that America was founded on free speech. i think that in this form persons should be able to express opinion without a response from anyone...of course that is just my opinion. i do know that expression about opinions."that opinions are like a**holes everyone has one"..

[KouponKing]

I like the way the discussion is going. It's too bad we only have two real choices. It seems our country is pulled in two different direction by two different powers. Capitalism and So c i a l i s m. And each party seems to be moving further and further in each direction. Capitalism run amuck turns into Fascism (where the government is run for the corporations). That's the direction we have trended toward the last 8 years. So c i a l i s m run amuck is too community orientated and stifles innovation, which is bad for long term economic growth. Our greatest strength as a country, is that we have balanced these two forces. Unfortunately neither of the two major candidates, seems to be in the center enough to understand that. And neither do enough Americans. Otherwise, candidates like Ron Paul would be major players, instead of minor characters.

As far as share the wealth goes, up to even 30 years ago, the average CEO was making 100 times the average worker. Nowadays the average CEO is making 500 times the average worker. (The minimum wage has not gone up 5 times it's amount in the last 30 years.) The basic problem with, "The Reaganomics Trickle Down System" has been that the money doesn't trickle down. The rich get richer, and they dole out just enough money, for workers to just survive. There's nothing left over, to better yourself. (Educate yourself, buy things, improve your life.) Yet, this is the engine that keeps the economy going. Henry Ford understood this, that's why he paid his unskilled workers, twice the average salary. And in so doing, he created the Middle Class.

There is an old joke that goes ( the difference between a rich man and a poor man, is that, a rich man invests his money and spends the rest and a poor man spends his money and invests the rest.) The rich don't become rich, by spending their money, they become rich by saving their money and investing their money. Investing helps the economy, but it is not what keeps the economy going. What keeps the economy going, is by putting it in the hands of the people who will spend it. That is what share the wealth means. In my opinion. Allowing those workers who are just now barely making it, to improve themselves and in so doing, be the engine that keeps the economy going. :cool:

[Cpogie]

I like the way the discussion is going. It's too bad we only have two real choices. It seems our country is pulled in two different direction by two different powers. Capitalism and So c i a l i s m. And each party seems to be moving further and further in each direction. Capitalism run amuck turns into Fascism (where the government is run for the corporations). That's the direction we have trended toward the last 8 years. So c i a l i s m run amuck is too community orientated and stifles innovation, which is bad for long term economic growth. Our greatest strength as a country, is that we have balanced these two forces. Unfortunately neither of the two major candidates, seems to be in the center enough to understand that. And neither do enough Americans. Otherwise, candidates like Ron Paul would be major players, instead of minor characters.

As far as share the wealth goes, up to even 30 years ago, the average CEO was making 100 times the average worker. Nowadays the average CEO is making 500 times the average worker. (The minimum wage has not gone up 5 times it's amount in the last 30 years.) The basic problem with, "The Reaganomics Trickle Down System" has been that the money doesn't trickle down. The rich get richer, and they dole out just enough money, for workers to just survive. There's nothing left over, to better yourself. (Educate yourself, buy things, improve your life.) Yet, this is the engine that keeps the economy going. Henry Ford understood this, that's why he paid his unskilled workers, twice the average salary. And in so doing, he created the Middle Class.

There is an old joke that goes ( the difference between a rich man and a poor man, is that, a rich man invests his money and spends the rest and a poor man spends his money and invests the rest.) The rich don't become rich, by spending their money, they become rich by saving their money and investing their money. Investing helps the economy, but it is not what keeps the economy going. What keeps the economy going, is by putting it in the hands of the people who will spend it. That is what share the wealth means. In my opinion. Allowing those workers who are just now barely making it, to improve themselves and in so doing, be the engine that keeps the economy going. :cool:

Well said, could not agree more. ;)

[ALawicki]

I like the way the discussion is going. It's too bad we only have two real choices. It seems our country is pulled in two different direction by two different powers. Capitalism and So c i a l i s m. And each party seems to be moving further and further in each direction. Capitalism run amuck turns into Fascism (where the government is run for the corporations). That's the direction we have trended toward the last 8 years. So c i a l i s m run amuck is too community orientated and stifles innovation, which is bad for long term economic growth. Our greatest strength as a country, is that we have balanced these two forces. Unfortunately neither of the two major candidates, seems to be in the center enough to understand that. And neither do enough Americans. Otherwise, candidates like Ron Paul would be major players, instead of minor characters.

As far as share the wealth goes, up to even 30 years ago, the average CEO was making 100 times the average worker. Nowadays the average CEO is making 500 times the average worker. (The minimum wage has not gone up 5 times it's amount in the last 30 years.) The basic problem with, "The Reaganomics Trickle Down System" has been that the money doesn't trickle down. The rich get richer, and they dole out just enough money, for workers to just survive. There's nothing left over, to better yourself. (Educate yourself, buy things, improve your life.) Yet, this is the engine that keeps the economy going. Henry Ford understood this, that's why he paid his unskilled workers, twice the average salary. And in so doing, he created the Middle Class.

There is an old joke that goes ( the difference between a rich man and a poor man, is that, a rich man invests his money and spends the rest and a poor man spends his money and invests the rest.) The rich don't become rich, by spending their money, they become rich by saving their money and investing their money. Investing helps the economy, but it is not what keeps the economy going. What keeps the economy going, is by putting it in the hands of the people who will spend it. That is what share the wealth means. In my opinion. Allowing those workers who are just now barely making it, to improve themselves and in so doing, be the engine that keeps the economy going. :cool:

Very well put. You explained your opinion very well.

I don't think discussing what you think will help us is a bad thing. I just hate that everyone wants to bash the person they are not for. Everyone has made up their mind, so getting into arguments with others is just making tension. I think people should state their opinions but not bash what everyone else says if it is different. Being polite is all I want.:rolleyes: Very well put though. You made some really good points. I didn't think about what you wrong in the first section. It is really true.

[gmcommgrad]

I'll be the rose amongst thorns. I already voted Obama. :D

I'm Pro-Books (and against banning them)
Pro-Reproductive Rights
Pro-Science
Pro-Woman
& I've voted

[utkd29]

SO glad this is going to be over with tomorrow! :eek:

[Jess0587]

Me too!!!!!!! :o

[cooking4]

Hope Everyone Gets Out And Votes Tomorrow! After Voting, I Am Volunteering At The Polls.

[jessiegirl]

I am dropping off four family members ballots today. I am so excited. Though I can't vote my family has allowed me to be involved in as many ways as possible. I basically explained each and every state measure to them and made sure they filled out their ballots and now I am taking them to a drop off location.

I am happy this is all over tomorrow, but a little nervous on the outcome. This is a huge election and hopefully America makes the right choice, which ever candidate that may be.

[Cpogie]

I am dropping off four family members ballots today. I am so excited. Though I can't vote my family has allowed me to be involved in as many ways as possible. I basically explained each and every state measure to them and made sure they filled out their ballots and now I am taking them to a drop off location.

I am happy this is all over tomorrow, but a little nervous on the outcome. This is a huge election and hopefully America makes the right choice, which ever candidate that may be.

I think thats great that they let you be involved with the voting process. :D

[jessiegirl]

I think thats great that they let you be involved with the voting process. :D

Thanks Carol, I have been following politics since John Kerry was fighting Bush for the White House. I am a huge political person, I actually received good news a week or so ago, that the internship I interviewed for down at City Hall is now mine! I am going to be an intern for one of Portland's City commisioners. So yay!

I am so thankful for my family allowing me to be involved in the voting process, as I just barley miss the deadline!

[SherriW]

Man, I just saw this thread and boy did it give me a few good chuckles and a couple of hearty belly laughs.

There is one good thing that has come out of this election: It has inspired tons of people who normally don't care about politics to get involved. For that we can all be thankful.

No matter what side you are voting for, the bigger issue is that we as Americans get involved. That is what this this election did for our country. From people who never voted, people who had lost faith, those who never thought their vote mattered and to us here on this site who are voting (and vocal, lol) it has made Americans stand up and want to be heard.

No matter who wins Americans need to realize the power to change goverment is in our hands. Not just at elections but everyday. If we all realized that then we could make our appointed "hired" hands listen to us. If we stand together on the 4th and everyday we could make goverment answer to us whether Democrat, Republican or any other party. They are your employees, so make them work for you.

Thank you all!

Be proud of yourselves and each other that at least we are are taking our part in keeping this country what it should be, a Democracy!!

[countrypkin65]

Best of luck to everyone tommorrow...no matter who wins, may God be Bless us all, and keep our Country safe.

The Pledge of Allegiance
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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(borrowed)

Prayer for Civil Authority

Lord Jesus Christ, King of the universe, look with mercy on those who rule
over us. Grant to our President and his administration the grace to know
and do your will. Let them serve all their subjects in truth and righteousness.
Inspire our Congressmen with the courage to make laws for the good of all
rather than the few. Give our Judges your Spirit of wisdom and understanding
that they may discern the truth and impartially administer the law.
And let all the people pitch in to make our way of government
continue to work. Amen.

2517 listen: http://www.2heartsnetwork.org/america.mid



http://www.2heartsnetwork.org/america.htm (for more Prayers for our Country)
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V O T E

[utkd29]

Is there any news yet to how this is going?

[VanillaBean]

YAY!!!!!! Just voted!!!! Long line but was only there for about approximately an hour total with standing and voting together! Not too bad!! can't wait for the results to start coming in!!

[bvanpeltsw]

Is there any news yet to how this is going?

LOL nope....we really will not know anything until this evening when the polls start to close and report their numbers.

[Jess0587]

It's going to be an interesting night, needless to say! I just hope whoever wins, sticks to there guns and takes care of us. :o

[ALawicki]

Voted!! There was no line at all, so I was in and out!:D Great first year to vote with no lines! Seth is voting now.

[bvanpeltsw]

I am going to volunteer at the polls now.....hopefully there will not be a stampede.:eek:

[mom363546]

I made several jokes through out the day about hoping I wouldn't have to stand in a long line. We only have about 132 people give or take a few. luckily I went around 2:30 and missed the rush. :)

[cath_31]

I went around 11 and there was no line for me either :) .

[danajc83]

I just went and voted and i was in and out in 5 minutes!

[ALawicki]

BARACK OBAMA ELECTED PRESIDENT!!
It is now over!

[jessiegirl]

I have to say I feel a sense of relief, and I truly feel proud to be an American in this moment. It was a great run for John McCain, hes a wonderful man and a great politician however, this is Barack Obama's moment and I think he will do great things for this country.

[laf76]

I am so disgusted with our next president. I can honestly say I have seen EVERYTHING now. Yuck!

[mkrebecca]

I think we all just need to be in prayer for our country!!! We will need God to guide us with our next president for sure!!!

[bugspost]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_15_54.gif I would hope we could be united and support our President.

[jessiegirl]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_15_54.gif I would hope we could be united and support our President.

I agree. It is all said and done now. Lets work together as Americans to make this country a better place.

All in all, it truly doesn't matter who won tonight, the country would need prayers whether John McCain won or Barack Obama.

[gmcommgrad]

It's a beautiful and historic day.

Happy Wednesday ladies!

[bunny]

I think we all just need to be in prayer for our country!!! We will need God to guide us with our next president for sure!!!

I agree with you.

[bvanpeltsw]

I have to say I feel a sense of relief, and I truly feel proud to be an American in this moment. It was a great run for John McCain, hes a wonderful man and a great politician however, this is Barack Obama's moment and I think he will do great things for this country.

I completely agree! Hopefully this will be a point where everyone can work together and make great things happen.:)

[Grumpy]

now that obama is pres. he can take my hard earned money & give it to those who didnt want to go out & start their own business. Thanks a lot, glad I busted my arse for others to enjoy my money. :mad:

[kathann]

now that obama is pres. he can take my hard earned money & give it to those who didnt want to go out & start their own business. Thanks a lot, glad I busted my arse for others to enjoy my money. :mad:


Yes, he said "spread the wealth"....so sit on your butts while others work their butts off so they can give you money...We are now in a time of big government and government handouts.

[mom2fussbudgets]

I completely agree! Hopefully this will be a point where everyone can work together and make great things happen.:)

Yep, yep! Agreed! :)

[VanillaBean]

I am just thankful to be alive and to be part of History!! I will love being able to tell my grandchildren about this election and how it has made History!!!

The Country spoke.....and the majority won!!!!!!!!!! I love Democracy!!!!!!!


So Glad Obama WON!!!!!!!

[danajc83]

I think we all just need to be in prayer for our country!!! We will need God to guide us with our next president for sure!!!
I agree we need to keep praying for our country and its leaders! God is in control and He will take care of His people!

[Jess0587]

I agree we need to keep praying for our country and its leaders! God is in control and He will take care of His people!

AGREED!!!!!!!

[ALawicki]

I thought McCain would have had a better chance than he did. He got stomped last night.

I agree that we all need to come together as a country. Yes we need to pray for our country, but no matter who was leading it we always need to do that. Everyone thought Bush would be an amazing president, and well we see how that turned out. So maybe all of you that think Obama will be a bad president will think differently in the next year or so after you see him in office. Our country is really messed up right now, so whoever is in office will need our prayers and support to help it get better. Like Obama said last night, those of you that I don't yet have your support, maybe you will see soon that he is going to do the best he can for our country. Give him a chance.:o

[lunarbeamdancer]

it doesnt matter who i voted for or why. i really dont think either would have been a bad choice. mccain may have pulled our troops out later then we all would like to see ( yeah we all want them ALL home for christmas im sure) but i do believe there will be change. & good change at that. one thing i want to see is a ban on 2 year campaining! you get 12/14 months & thats it!
lol & no more nasty ads from either party. do you think we will ever see that? i doubt it.

[ALawicki]

A friend brought this to my attention, she is telling everyone that is bashing Obama to read this:

Romans 13:1
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

With prayer and support from everyone, I am sure he will be a great president.

[ALawicki]

http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg

Just a little laugh, my cousin showed it to me.

[imalittletoenail]

A friend brought this to my attention, she is telling everyone that is bashing Obama to read this:

Romans 13:1
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."
.

ummm...no...your friend needs to go back and read this in context...the apostle Paul is referring to the Kingdom of Heaven in this verse...NOT secular authorities as in the government...

edit: btw I'm NOT trying to start a religious debate over this...however, I cannot as a Christian sit back and let bible verses be thrown at me as a reason to "support" Obama

[ALawicki]

ummm...no...your friend needs to go back and read this in context...the apostle Paul is referring to the Kingdom of Heaven in this verse...NOT secular authorities as in the government...

edit: btw I'm NOT trying to start a religious debate over this...however, I cannot as a Christian sit back and let bible verses be thrown at me as a reason to "support" Obama

I understand where you are coming from, but it was not meant to throw the verses around. Bible verses were thrown around to dis Obama if you want to look at it that way. Tons of people said the bible was against Obama (not speaking about anyone on here, I am talking about emails I have received, just to note). I understand alot of people didn't want Obama to win, but it is over with and there is nothing that can be done to change that. No one knows what he will or won't do for our country. We all just need to give him the chance.

[imalittletoenail]

I understand where you are coming from, but it was not meant to throw the verses around. Bible verses were thrown around to dis Obama if you want to look at it that way. Tons of people said the bible was against Obama (not speaking about anyone on here, I am talking about emails I have received, just to note). I understand alot of people didn't want Obama to win, but it is over with and there is nothing that can be done to change that. No one knows what he will or won't do for our country. We all just need to give him the chance.

Absolutely, there are always bible verses "thrown around" when it comes to politics...my problem simply falls in those verses being taken out of context and then used to tell me that I am supposed to support him because the bible says so ...which is clearly what just happened...that's all...I have made the decision not to support him, not now or in the future...and I believe I have made the right decision...

[mom2fussbudgets]

Absolutely, there are always bible verses "thrown around" when it comes to politics...my problem simply falls in those verses being taken out of context and then used to tell me that I am supposed to support him because the bible says so ...which is clearly what just happened...that's all...I have made the decision not to support him, not now or in the future...and I believe I have made the right decision...

I understand the point you are trying to make here, and completely agree with you to a certain extent. However, I don't think the Bible verse was used to tell you to support Obama because the Bible says so.

Clearly, the verse was taken out of context. People do this all the time with Bible verses and with quotes. It's done as a means to help better express a feeling or a point of view. :)

[VanillaBean]

http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg

Just a little laugh, my cousin showed it to me.



THANKS!!!!!!! It wasn't a laugh for me..it was a a great symbol of something that has been a long time coming and great to see!!! I bet after another 4-8 more years..we just might see a female up there as well!!!! Maybe even a Spanish-American or Latino American.......... I love this country!

[imalittletoenail]

When bible verses are taken out of context, they are being used as a means to control and manipulate...
the verse was being quoted at people who are bashing Obama...and it's intention are quite clear to me...
the election is over and the man is in office...what can I do about it? nothing! but that does not mean that I have to agree with it...

[mom2fussbudgets]

When bible verses are taken out of context, they are being used as a means to control and manipulate...
the verse was being quoted at people who are bashing Obama...and it's intention are quite clear to me...
the election is over and the man is in office...what can I do about it? nothing! but that does not mean that I have to agree with it...

I think in some cases this is true, but not in all. You just have to look at the person who said it and decide on their intent. Personally, I don't feel like Ashley intended to use it to control or manipulate. I think she was using it as a peacekeeping ploy. I think this is probably true of her friend as well.

You do not have to agree with Obama being in office, of course. This is America, after all. And, you can do something about it, you can write your senators and congressmen and tell them to keep him accountable.

[mom2fussbudgets]

Amanda, I just want to say that I really do respect your opinion, and that I believe your point is valid. I also want you to know that I appreciate the way you've discussed this with me. It really is possible for people to have an intelligent conversation and express a difference of opinion without bashing each other. :)

[imalittletoenail]

Amanda, I just want to say that I really do respect your opinion, and that I believe your point is valid. I also want you to know that I appreciate the way you've discussed this with me. It really is possible for people to have an intelligent conversation and express a difference of opinion without bashing each other. :)

Chris, I was actually just thinking the same thing...My intention in responding originally was to try to evoke an interesting, intelligent conversation...which is very possible...in any situation...and this thread is a perfect example of such a situation...politics and then we threw in the religion...;)
everyone has an opinion, obviously...and I think it really comes down to how we choose to express that through effective communication...

[gmcommgrad]

You know what one of the old adages is....

no good deed goes unpunished. :)

Yup, folks are just trying to talk but it spirals into the land of finger pointing. The thing I try to tell my folks at work is this... we are ALL on the same team. We all have at least similar goals. So lets try to play nice.

Ashley
(getting off my tiny soapbox now)

[ALawicki]

I think in some cases this is true, but not in all. You just have to look at the person who said it and decide on their intent. Personally, I don't feel like Ashley intended to use it to control or manipulate. I think she was using it as a peacekeeping ploy. I think this is probably true of her friend as well.

You do not have to agree with Obama being in office, of course. This is America, after all. And, you can do something about it, you can write your senators and congressmen and tell them to keep him accountable.

I was simply just trying to make peace. I don't want to throw around verses like they are nothing, because they are not. Through all of this there has been lots of tension, and now that all of this is over I just wanted everyone to be peaceful with each other. Didn't know that it would offend anyone, just thought it was a good thing to think of. God works in many ways, and I don't think he would have let things happen if he didn't think we could handle them. I know alot of people don't like Obama, and won't (or atleast until he proves to them he is right for the job), but I never said anyone HAD to like him. I have been saying that from the beginning. And yes I think we can have wonderful conversations without fighting. That is what I wanted from the beginning also. To understand where people are coming from.:o :rolleyes:

[mom2fussbudgets]

Okay! I think everyone has had their say? Therefore, I am going to close this thread now. I hope that's okay with everyone. :)

And, hugs all around.