Please keep praying for my family...

[Motherofthree]

I didnt know where to post this so mods move if you need.

I hate doing this but I need prayers and support from my family here at SS. So here goes.

As some of you know my husband is in Mexico. Not by choice. For those of you who dont know he was deported in September 07' for driving without a license that stemmed far back to Oct of 06' but we didnt get a court date until 120 days before the judge gave him voluntary departure(voluntary departure is when you get to leave the country on your own within the time frame that the judge says, the maximum amount by law is 120 days, so hubby got the maximum).. Yes we are married and yes we have children. Obviously that didnt matter to immigration. We are in the process of getting his green card and we have a lawyer..They are saying another 1-2 years before he comes back. In July of 07' immigration raised their filing fees on all the papers so we had to pay much more than normally. My mother is helping us with the money and we have already paid over $6,000 dollars, and we still have to pay more for other papers we are going to file to get him back sooner. This has been hard emotionally, fiancially, and physcically for my whole family. My mother and father adore this man and its killing them because they see how it is affecting me and the kids. I need your thoughts, prayers, and support at this time..:( (((((Hugs))))) To you all!!! Allison:)

[Cpogie]

Allison, I will keep you in my prayers.

[mkrebecca]

Oh Allison, this is so messed up! I will be praying for you and your family. You need to believe that God will bring your family together! You will be together!!

[wbarker]

Oh my goodness Allison! I'm so sorry to hear about your husband having to go to Mexico! Of course we'll pray for you - sending up a prayer now!

I can't imagine what you and your kids are going through! Please keep us informed as to what is happening so we know how to pray!

I'm praying for a miracle - that your husband can get his greencard quickly, and that he doesn't need to remain in Mexico for 1-2 years.

Blessings! ~ Wendi

[laf76]

This is going on with one of my girlfriends. Her husband was deported for "disturbing the peace"!!!!!!! It is awful!

[mood4amelody]

Aww Allison!! HUGS!! I feel awful that you are going through this trial! I know you must feel awfully lonely, but you have a lot of people here who care, who will listen, and who'll bring their special Chinese Silk Handkerchief's out for you to use! :)

[Motherofthree]

Thank You all so much.......:) I will let you all know when the I-130 comes back. Our lawyer got it filed in Nov. 07. Its a petittion for a relative visa(I'm his relative)....After that gets appoved we have to file the hardship waiver...and so on and so on...I will keep you all informed!! Thanks again guys this means so much to me......:)

[Motherofthree]

This is going on with one of my girlfriends. Her husband was deported for "disturbing the peace"!!!!!!! It is awful!

Disturbing the peace?????? How about disturbing childrens lives and wives/husbands is what immigration is doing to all of these families....They need to give these people a chance to get their green cards and stay with their families...NOT RIP THEM APART!!!!! I do understand YES my husband came here illegally but we have made a life together, and for someone to take that away from me and my U.S born children is WRONG!!! No child should be without a father.. Immigration dosent understand what this is doing to my children......

[Cpogie]

417 Keep your chin up, with all of these prayers he has to listen!

[momsangel]

I am terribly sadden to hear this is happening to your family, I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers,and send encouragement your way that things will work out for the better and he'l be home before you realize it.
My best to you and your family!

[mom2fussbudgets]

Aw Allison, I'm terribly sorry as well. Keep your chin up, and let's hope for the best.

[ilove2sample]

My heart goes out to you!!! I've never been in a situation like this. I can't imagine what you are going through!!! My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family!!!

[Motherofthree]

Thank you guys.....I appreciate all the support..:)

[rebate queen]

Allison,
Could you pm me your address, I have something I'd like to send to you!
And still praying here!!!

[Motherofthree]

Allison,
Could you pm me your address, I have something I'd like to send to you!
And still praying here!!!

Thanks Dawn for praying for me. I will pm my address to you now.:)

[MandMnmbr3]

Allison.. I am so sorry to hear this. I too will keep you and your family in my prayers.

[AzuAngel]

Allison you know your family will be in my prayers! Hopefully your husband will be with you soon!!!

[Motherofthree]

Allison.. I am so sorry to hear this. I too will keep you and your family in my prayers.

Thank you Mae, this is going to be the longest and most hardest thing that I will ever do in my life. Thanks again.

[momsangel]

Thank you Mae, this is going to be the longest and most hardest thing that I will ever do in my life. Thanks again.

Allison
Just know that from every bad situation something good will come,just have faith in yourself and your abilities to handle whatever may come your way until this is resolved.
Thinking of you.

[LadyPyro]

{{{Allison}}}, and prayers for you and your family. All that government red tape, it's gotta just be awful. Be strong and courageous, it will all work out eventually.
Beth

[VanillaBean]

Another prayer for you Allison, and (((((hugs)))))

[muttlover]

You are not only in my prayers, but you are also on my things I'm grateful for list.:)

[Motherofthree]

You guys thank you so much for all your thoughtful and sweet words. It really means so much for me to be able to talk and vent to people that will listen and understand...You guys are like my cyberspace family. Thank You all so very much and ((((((((BIG GIGANTIC HUGS))))))) to you all. You guys have no idea what this means to me and I hope that we can all get to know each one of each other better. Sorry guys if I am getting to mushy for you guys.....:o

[wbarker]

You guys thank you so much for all your thoughtful and sweet words. It really means so much for me to be able to talk and vent to people that will listen and understand...You guys are like my cyberspace family. Thank You all so very much and ((((((((BIG GIGANTIC HUGS))))))) to you all. You guys have no idea what this means to me and I hope that we can all get to know each one of each other better. Sorry guys if I am getting to mushy for you guys.....:o

More prayers headed your way! :) Hugs right back at ya too! You aren't too mushy for me! We all need to get mushy from time to time - I think its great that we are building a cyber family! Wish we were all closer so we could actually get together from time to time!

[rebate queen]

Here's more prayers, hugs, good karma, good vibes, positive thoughts, strength, courage, energy, peace of mind, willpower, and grace coming your way. Keep on believin' Allison!!

[Motherofthree]

I cant thank all of you enough!! All of you who have posted and have given me words of encouragement...It mean so much to me. You can really tell who cares about you and who dosent....and I am happy that I have people here who care..I am lost and lonely...I know you all care but my husband was the one that kept me going....he was the one who was always there for me, he was the one who supported me, he was the one that was a father to my children, he was the one that made the day better...I could go on and on about him and I guess I should in the DH thread...Anyways...thanks guys!!! (((((HUGS))))

[Motherofthree]

Another prayer for you Allison, and (((((hugs)))))

Thank You!! It means a lot!!

[muttlover]

You are constantly in my thoughts and prayers. I'm here for you kiddo (any time of the day or nite) just like you have been there for me. I'll talk to you later tonite.

((((((((((Hugs)))))))))),

Cindy

[Cpogie]

I cant thank all of you enough!! All of you who have posted and have given me words of encouragement...It mean so much to me. You can really tell who cares about you and who dosent....and I am happy that I have people here who care..I am lost and lonely...I know you all care but my husband was the one that kept me going....he was the one who was always there for me, he was the one who supported me, he was the one that was a father to my children, he was the one that made the day better...I could go on and on about him and I guess I should in the DH thread...Anyways...thanks guys!!! (((((HUGS))))

<<<HUGS>>> more prayers for you and your family, keep positive hun, things will work out!

[Motherofthree]

You are constantly in my thoughts and prayers. I'm here for you kiddo (any time of the day or nite) just like you have been there for me. I'll talk to you later tonite.

((((((((((Hugs)))))))))),

Cindy

Cindy,
Its funny how we have grown to know each other.....You know that I care deeply about you. Its awesome that you have been here during the rough times in my life...and I pray that you will be there continuously as I pray all of you at SS will.....Love all you guys here at SS!!!:)

[Motherofthree]

<<<HUGS>>> more prayers for you and your family, keep positive hun, things will work out!

Carol,
Thank You for all your words of kindness and sweetness!!! I care about you Carol and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a kind and wise woman...:)

[Motherofthree]

Here's more prayers, hugs, good karma, good vibes, positive thoughts, strength, courage, energy, peace of mind, willpower, and grace coming your way. Keep on believin' Allison!!

Dawn,
I love the way you think..You have a very good energy and aura about you..and dont ask me why I know that..I can just feel it. Thanks Dawn for your support.

[Motherofthree]

More prayers headed your way! :) Hugs right back at ya too! You aren't too mushy for me! We all need to get mushy from time to time - I think its great that we are building a cyber family! Wish we were all closer so we could actually get together from time to time!

I'm glad I'm not to mushy for you..Thanks again for everything!!!:)
(((HUGS)))

[lizmolik]

Allison, Keep your head up girl...Things will work out for you and your family! I will keep you, your children, and your hubby in my prayers! (((HUGS)))! :) :p :D

[Motherofthree]

:( Allison, Keep your head up girl...Things will work out for you and your family! I will keep you, your children, and your hubby in my prayers! (((HUGS)))! :) :p :D

Thanks Liz.......You dont know how much this all means to me....

[Nannette29]

Oh (((Allison))) I am so very sorry hun!!! :( What a horrible, horrible thing for you & your children to be going thru! I can't even imagine!!! :eek: My thoughts & prayers are with you & the kids! Try to be strong & hang in there hun! A family here in my town is going thru the same exact thing right now! They came and took the wife from her home & put her in jail & are going to deport her! She is married & has two children & has been here for 18 years! She has been going back & forth with her paper work for some time and due to the governments lack of doing their job after all this time, they are now deporting her after all these years! :mad:

[mood4amelody]

Yah, Allison.. How are you holding up?? I don't know if you know it or not, but you are a rock!! It comes automatically when you give birth. You are able to have love, patience, and strength during even the very toughest of times. You won't always feel strong or mighty, but just because you don't feel like that, doesn't mean you aren't like that. Sometimes it only shows up when you look back and say, "Man, how did I ever make it thru that??" and then you see it. :)

[momsangel]

Allison
Just wanted to check with you and see how things are going and how you are doing lately?HUgs & warm thoughts being sent to you & your family!!

[caryn]

Sorry I didn't read this post before now. I am so sorry to hear about your husband and your problems with the green card. The Government can be aweful.

We have a family in my school who is having to go back to Honduras as his green card has run out and they will not renew it for whatever reason. Both of their children were born here in the US. The oldest, who is is 3rd grade has a hearing impairment and has just gotten hearing aides in the last year. She receives special education services. We fear for her especially going to this underdevelped area.

I will keep you and all others as well as the Government in my prayers, let's pray they get some brains!!!:cool:

[Motherofthree]

You all have me in tears right now..........It just seems like everything is getting harder..I am so loaded with school work and one of my friends from school, which also happend to be my teacher passed away on Sat..........I just want things to get better.......Patience is a virtue..............Why cant I get it together..Its just so hard having no money, having to ask my own Mother for clothing for my children.....Its embarasing..I now get medicaid and food stamps because my husband is not here to provide for his family like he was doing when he was here.:( You guys have really touched my heart and I cant thank you enough.:o

[laf76]

Keeping you all in my prayers!

[Motherofthree]

Thank You!!! Means alot to me...

[mood4amelody]

You all have me in tears right now..........It just seems like everything is getting harder..I am so loaded with school work and one of my friends from school, which also happend to be my teacher passed away on Sat..........I just want things to get better.......Patience is a virtue..............Why cant I get it together..Its just so hard having no money, having to ask my own Mother for clothing for my children.....Its embarasing..I now get medicaid and food stamps because my husband is not here to provide for his family like he was doing when he was here.:( You guys have really touched my heart and I cant thank you enough.:o

I know you feel just awful (the word doesn't even come close), but there are a lot of positive things in your life. I see a whole bunch just in what you wrote up above there. First thing up there is that you are going to school! That's a wonderful blessing. Hard work, for sure, but it means a brighter future for you and your children, so that's a really awesome, good thing! :) You have a Mother! Thank God!! That's a great thing in itself, but it's an added bonus that she is willing to help you and your children during trying times. HUGS to your mom!!! You have your children. They love you like your the best thing in the world and then some! God gave them to you because he knew there would be hard times in life where you would need unconditional love and support and especially joy. You get assistance! Your babies can see the doctor anytime they need to. You can get their immunizations and if they are sick, you don't have to wait it out and see if it gets any better. And, you don't have to worry how you are going to feed them dinner with no money and nothing left in the pantry.

I know that you must be looking at the bright side as best you can, but I wanted to help you see some of it so you wouldn't feel like things are spinning out of control. You've got a grip on things, and that may be the best that you can get right this second. But, give it time, and keep on doing what you're doing, and soon you will have more than a grip on it, you'll have a "firm grip", and after that you'll be "latched on" and eventually, you will have the bull by the horns and you'll be saying, "Wow. I made it through something like that! I'm awesome!" :D

[muttlover]

Just wanted to add to Mood4amelody's list of things you have going for you...you have an awful lot of people here at SS and at TB in your corner rooting and praying for you. Ever heard that old adage, prayers can move mountains. Well, if that is true, surely all these prayers can get your hubby back where he belongs.

Hang in there. March will be here before you know it. We will have a great time when you come for your visit. I can't wait. My grocery list is growing by the second with all your d@mn vegetarian food. Freakin bunny food if you ask me:D

[rebate queen]

Thinking of you often Allison and wishing I could take some of that pain away....
You are a fighter and a survivor, and we're all backin' you 100%-

Whenever you get down just picture us as the Start Sampling Network--like Verizon--with you everywhere you go. Surely that visual will make you smile:D

[MandMnmbr3]

Allison... I applaud you for what you are doing, you are continuing your education to make a better life for your family. I know you have a "full plate" and you have a bit of self doubt, but hon you WILL make it through it, and be a stronger person in the end!!!

If you attend Church you might want to contact the office or rectory and see if they have any services that might help you out with clothing for your children.

You're family is in my prayers hon!!

{{{Hugs}}}

[mood4amelody]

Thinking of you often Allison and wishing I could take some of that pain away....
You are a fighter and a survivor, and we're all backin' you 100%-

Whenever you get down just picture us as the Start Sampling Network--like Verizon--with you everywhere you go. Surely that visual will make you smile:D

I had an ex like that! I just called him Stalker. :rolleyes: lol That made me smile Dawn! Hope it worked for you, too, Allison!!

[Motherofthree]

Thinking of you often Allison and wishing I could take some of that pain away....
You are a fighter and a survivor, and we're all backin' you 100%-

Whenever you get down just picture us as the Start Sampling Network--like Verizon--with you everywhere you go. Surely that visual will make you smile:D

You did make me smile..!!:) Thank you Dawn!

[Motherofthree]

I had an ex like that! I just called him Stalker. :rolleyes: lol That made me smile Dawn! Hope it worked for you, too, Allison!!

Yes, it worked for me as well!!:)

[Motherofthree]

Allison... I applaud you for what you are doing, you are continuing your education to make a better life for your family. I know you have a "full plate" and you have a bit of self doubt, but hon you WILL make it through it, and be a stronger person in the end!!!

If you attend Church you might want to contact the office or rectory and see if they have any services that might help you out with clothing for your children.

You're family is in my prayers hon!!

{{{Hugs}}}

Mae,
I do not belong to a church. I do belong to the womens center at my school and so far they have not been able to help me with financial things. I have asked for things like gas vouchers and clothes but they always tell me to call 2-1-1 or find a church to go to. I will be honest. Its embarassing asking for things. My school has offered to write a letter for my lawyer to give immigration about my "academic excellence" and all that good stuff because my cummulative G.P.A is a 3.7. Thats really all they can do and I appreciate that.

Thanks Mae and everyone for the continuous support.

I check this thread when I have time and it usually lifts my spirits..:)

[MandMnmbr3]

Mae,
I do not belong to a church. I do belong to the womens center at my school and so far they have not been able to help me with financial things. I have asked for things like gas vouchers and clothes but they always tell me to call 2-1-1 or find a church to go to. I will be honest. Its embarassing asking for things. My school has offered to write a letter for my lawyer to give immigration about my "academic excellence" and all that good stuff because my cummulative G.P.A is a 3.7. Thats really all they can do and I appreciate that.

Thanks Mae and everyone for the continuous support.

I check this thread when I have time and is usually lifts my spirits..:)

Allison... I hope the letter will help out your situation, it certainly couldn't hurt. Congrats on your GPA,that's awesome!!! Keep up the good work!!! :D

Hugs!

[Motherofthree]

Mae,
I love it that you always give me ((hugs))!!!! (((((hugs)))) to you back and again thanks for all your support.:)

[GeorgiaMom]

I'll probably be ostracized for this but...

I do feel sorry for the emotional strain this has put on your family. The kids should not have to go through that. However, I can not sympathize when it comes to the fact that he was here illegally and was still breaking our laws by driving without a license. Because he was here illegally, he must not have been paying taxes on any of the money he made as well, which I can not condone. So now, he was caught, deported, and left a family behind that is now receiving benefits from a government that he didn't even financially support. My family's tax dollars now have to support this family. I don't see where it is our government's responsibilty now to "act quickly" to get him back into this country. After all, he didn't seem interested in coming here legally in the first place, and he broke other laws while he was here. Technically, he is a criminal. What other criminal does anyone feel sorry for?

On another note, what's keeping you and the kids from moving to him? You knew he was an illegal before you married him and had kids. So how does **** poor planning on your part constitute an emergency on my government's part?

I really do hope that you guys are reunited, be it here, or the country he is LEGALLY from. Good luck, but plan better next time.

[Motherofthree]

Good news everybody!!! I just went out and got the mail and I just received a letter from immigration from the I-130 that we filed back in November. Its a letter of Notice of Action!!! So I guess they are looking over the case...I'm not to sure but I have called my lawyer and left a message.......I'm very happy right now!:D

[Motherofthree]

I'll probably be ostracized for this but...

I do feel sorry for the emotional strain this has put on your family. The kids should not have to go through that. However, I can not sympathize when it comes to the fact that he was here illegally and was still breaking our laws by driving without a license. Because he was here illegally, he must not have been paying taxes on any of the money he made as well, which I can not condone. So now, he was caught, deported, and left a family behind that is now receiving benefits from a government that he didn't even financially support. My family's tax dollars now have to support this family. I don't see where it is our government's responsibilty now to "act quickly" to get him back into this country. After all, he didn't seem interested in coming here legally in the first place, and he broke other laws while he was here. Technically, he is a criminal. What other criminal does anyone feel sorry for?

On another note, what's keeping you and the kids from moving to him? You knew he was an illegal before you married him and had kids. So how does **** poor planning on your part constitute an emergency on my government's part?

I really do hope that you guys are reunited, be it here, or the country he is LEGALLY from. Good luck, but plan better next time.

Georgiamom,

I was debating on whether or not to respond to your post. I have decided not to because I will more than likely say things that arent very nice and argue with you. Like your little saying says "not to argue with an idiot, it will only bring you down" and I think you are one and I will not argue with one.

[bvanpeltsw]

I'll probably be ostracized for this but...

I do feel sorry for the emotional strain this has put on your family. The kids should not have to go through that. However, I can not sympathize when it comes to the fact that he was here illegally and was still breaking our laws by driving without a license. Because he was here illegally, he must not have been paying taxes on any of the money he made as well, which I can not condone. So now, he was caught, deported, and left a family behind that is now receiving benefits from a government that he didn't even financially support. My family's tax dollars now have to support this family. I don't see where it is our government's responsibilty now to "act quickly" to get him back into this country. After all, he didn't seem interested in coming here legally in the first place, and he broke other laws while he was here. Technically, he is a criminal. What other criminal does anyone feel sorry for?

On another note, what's keeping you and the kids from moving to him? You knew he was an illegal before you married him and had kids. So how does **** poor planning on your part constitute an emergency on my government's part?

I really do hope that you guys are reunited, be it here, or the country he is LEGALLY from. Good luck, but plan better next time.


Yikes! I could into this debate and get very hot-headed, BUT I am not. If you lived in a place where the environment was horrible and there were not high paying jobs BUT if you knew right across the border there was a place that paid well (mostly) and offered numerous opportunities....wouldn't you go???? And if you had a family to support and wanted the best for them.....

AND half of Albert's family is here illegally....BUT they are hard-working individuals who work EVERYDAY and contribute to this society. They spend money at our stores, eat at our restaurants, and work in our homes. You might even know some of these people because they YOUR dishes at a restaurant, pick that tomatos that YOU eat, and do the jobs that most people do not want. AND I should add Albert is Mexican and born in the USA! His family is wonderful and I will fight tooth and nail for them. They are my family too and have done NOTHING but great things for me.

And to your comment about planning better next time? Give me a break, seriously.....Do you know how much it costs to file paperwork and become a legal citizen? It is thousands of dollars and that does not include lawyer fees that might accrue. Most families make enough to live (including mine) and those extra costs are not feasible.

Your whole response just really saddened me to say the least. I will leave it at that.

[Motherofthree]

Brandy!! Thank You!! I COULD NOT OF SAID IT ANY NICER THAN THAT.....

[bvanpeltsw]

Good news everybody!!! I just went out and got the mail and I just received a letter from immigration from the I-130 that we filed back in November. Its a letter of Notice of Action!!! So I guess they are looking over the case...I'm not to sure but I have called my lawyer and left a message.......I'm very happy right now!:D

That is great news!:)

[GeorgiaMom]

That's fine. I didn't post to argue with you. You asked for support. I can't give you the support you asked for, and felt you deserved an explanation of why I could not offer that support.

[bvanpeltsw]

Brandy!! Thank You!! I COULD NOT OF SAID IT ANY NICER THAN THAT.....

I've really had to learn to compose myself when things like this come up. Albert is Mexican and I do tolerate people telling me that his family should go back to Mexico. They know exactly where to take that.

Everything I said is 100% true and people know it!;)

[Motherofthree]

That's fine. I didn't post to argue with you. You asked for support. I can't give you the support you asked for, and felt you deserved an explanation of why I could not offer that support.

You do not know all of the details...........If you couldnt offer support you should of just kept to yourself. I am amazed..

[GeorgiaMom]

Yikes! I could into this debate and get very hot-headed, BUT I am not. If you lived in a place where the environment was horrible and there were not high paying jobs BUT if you knew right across the border there was a place that paid well (mostly) and offered numerous opportunities....wouldn't you go???? And if you had a family to support and wanted the best for them.....

AND half of Albert's family is here illegally....BUT they are hard-working individuals who work EVERYDAY and contribute to this society. They spend money at our stores, eat at our restaurants, and work in our homes. You might even know some of these people because they YOUR dishes at a restaurant, pick that tomatos that YOU eat, and do the jobs that most people do not want.

And to your comment about planning better next time? Give me a break, seriously.....Do you know how much it costs to file paperwork and become a legal citizen? It is thousands of dollars and that does not include lawyer fees that might accrue. Most families make enough to live (including mine) and those extra costs are not feasible.

Your whole response just really saddened me to say the least. I will leave it at that.

Millions have people have left their countries for the same reasons and came here, but they did it legally...including people in my immediate family. Why should I feel sorry for illegals who continue to break our laws and get deported? You don't get pulled over for no license...you have to break another law to get pulled over in the first place.

As far as these illegals shopping in our stores and doing work that helps my family...They are shopping with money that they have not paid taxes on which costs me more in the long run. They are taking the opportunity to work away from US citizens who would gladly do whatever work was available but must legally be paid more than the illegals work for.

[Motherofthree]

I've really had to learn to compose myself when things like this come up. Albert is Mexican and I do tolerate people telling me that his family should go back to Mexico. They know exactly where to take that.

Everything I said is 100% true and people know it!;)

Its sad but people just dont get it!! Thats fine with me as long as my husband comes back....Its my right and the right of my children as a U.S citizen to be with whoever I want and to marry whoever I want...if they are illegal it is also my right as a U.S citizen to petition for them to get a green card...You cant help who you fall in love with.....

[bvanpeltsw]

You do not know all of the details...........If you couldnt offer support you should of just kept to yourself. I am amazed..

Allison......we are going to have disagreements in this forum. People are not going to agree with what we say. I like to refer to it as stimulating conversation!;)

With that being said, I do not agree with some of the things that go on here. I very rarely open my mouth, but sometimes it is called for. And when people open their mouths they have to be prepared to take criticism.

Other times you have to brush your shoulder off and let it go.

Just take it with a grain of salt;) You know the REAL situation that is ALL that matters.:)

[bvanpeltsw]

Millions have people have left their countries for the same reasons and came here, but they did it legally...including people in my immediate family. Why should I feel sorry for illegals who continue to break our laws and get deported? You don't get pulled over for no license...you have to break another law to get pulled over in the first place.

As far as these illegals shopping in our stores and doing work that helps my family...They are shopping with money that they have not paid taxes on which costs me more in the long run. They are taking the opportunity to work away from US citizens who would gladly do whatever work was available but must legally be paid more than the illegals work for.

To your first statement...that is not true at all. As a matter of fact, I was pulled over for a "broken tail light" and did not have a broken tail light at all. It was just a lame excuse to pull me over. I did not receive any ticket because I did not do anything wrong. I actually felt awesome after he pulled me over bc he thought he was going to find something on me.

And I should add that Albert's family pays taxes just like any other person. The govn't takes it out differently.

You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I will leave it at that. I am not going to debate this on an internet forum. I know that everyone is not going to agree and I would like to avoid the chaos that tends to come out with a post like this.

[Motherofthree]

Allison......we are going to have disagreements in this forum. People are not going to agree with what we say. I like to refer to it as stimulating conversation!;)

With that being said, I do not agree with some of the things that go on here. I very rarely open my mouth, but sometimes it is called for. And when people open their mouths they have to be prepared to take criticism.

Other times you have to brush your shoulder off and let it go.

Just take it with a grain of salt;) You know the REAL situation that is ALL that matters.:)

I know and thats why I opted not to answer her questions.......I am letting this go, but there will always be people that we dont agree with and thats life!:)

[mom2fussbudgets]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but sometimes maybe it's just better not to say anything at all rather than to hurt someone else or make them feel bad. :(

[mood4amelody]

Here is how I look at this - Both sides have some valid points. But, they are mostly matters of opinion. GeorgiaMom spoke up to get something off her chest. The first thing I noticed about her post was that she mentioned that she did feel for Allison's emotional pain. Isn't that the most important thing she said??? Isn't that a way of saying "I care about you"?? Then she went on to state her opinion. Nope, not everyone's opinion, but still some points to consider and examine our own opinions against- a cause for self-evaluation.

I don't expect people in this forum to start being really mean to someone over an opinion. As long as it isn't said to be intentionally cruel to someone, then we should have the ability to agree to disagree without the mild jabs. Debate is an awesome tool for introspection and strenghening our own beliefs.

I should add - I understand Brandy's postition with her and Albert's family, too!! I didn't want you to think I was picking any sides! I don't have any answers to all this, but I think we should all be kinder here and have more tolerance as far as opinions go. It's like arguing politics or religion! Just gets everyone all puffed up and red faced.

[bvanpeltsw]

Here is how I look at this - Both sides have some valid points. But, they are mostly matters of opinion. GeorgiaMom spoke up to get something off her chest. The first thing I noticed about her post was that she mentioned that she did feel for Allison's emotional pain. Isn't that the most important thing she said??? Isn't that a way of saying "I care about you"?? Then she went on to state her opinion. Nope, not everyone's opinion, but still some points to consider and examine our own opinions against- a cause for self-evaluation.

I don't expect people in this forum to start being really mean to someone over an opinion. As long as it isn't said to be intentionally cruel to someone, then we should have the ability to agree to disagree without the mild jabs. Debate is an awesome tool for introspection and strenghening our own beliefs.


LMAO Lynn...I think we left this one alone a long time ago!;)

[mood4amelody]

LMAO Lynn...I think we left this one alone a long time ago!;)

Sorry - I just got here! Kids stole the computer all day!! lol

[bvanpeltsw]

Sorry - I just got here! Kids stole the computer all day!! lol

I think we agreed to disagree! LOL

[mom2fussbudgets]

Here is how I look at this - Both sides have some valid points. But, they are mostly matters of opinion. GeorgiaMom spoke up to get something off her chest. The first thing I noticed about her post was that she mentioned that she did feel for Allison's emotional pain. Isn't that the most important thing she said??? Isn't that a way of saying "I care about you"?? Then she went on to state her opinion. Nope, not everyone's opinion, but still some points to consider and examine our own opinions against- a cause for self-evaluation.

I don't expect people in this forum to start being really mean to someone over an opinion. As long as it isn't said to be intentionally cruel to someone, then we should have the ability to agree to disagree without the mild jabs. Debate is an awesome tool for introspection and strenghening our own beliefs.

I should add - I understand Brandy's postition with her and Albert's family, too!! I didn't want you to think I was picking any sides! I don't have any answers to all this, but I think we should all be kinder here and have more tolerance as far as opinions go. It's like arguing politics or religion! Just gets everyone all puffed up and red faced.


Lynne, I do agree with you in many ways. But isn't there a time and a place for opinions? Is it right to speak your mind at someone else's expense? I wouldn't say it if I thought what I said was going to hurt someone else who was already clearly in pain.

[mood4amelody]

Lynne, I do agree with you in many ways. But isn't there a time and a place for opinions? Is it right to speak your mind at someone else's expense? I wouldn't say it if I thought what I said was going to hurt someone else who was already clearly in pain.

Well, basically, Chris, she said I support your pain, but I don't condone why you are in pain. If you child came up and said, "Mommy, I cut my finger in the fan." You'd feel bad about the finger, but you would also be upset because your child knows that if they stick their finger in the fan, there's a chance they will get hurt." So, as a mother, should you not address the fan issue and just kiss the "boo boo"? Or, would you address the pain, and then discuss the fan issue? I think the whole thing was fair enough. If I went to someone and asked for a loan, I'd have to be willing to get the lecture about careful spending, as well as the money, right?

[mom2fussbudgets]

Well, basically, Chris, she said I support your pain, but I don't condone why you are in pain. If you child came up and said, "Mommy, I cut my finger in the fan." You'd feel bad about the finger, but you would also be upset because your child knows that if they stick their finger in the fan, there's a chance they will get hurt." So, as a mother, should you not address the fan issue and just kiss the "boo boo"? Or, would you address the pain, and then discuss the fan issue? I think the whole thing was fair enough. If I went to someone and asked for a loan, I'd have to be willing to get the lecture about careful spending, as well as the money, right?

First of all, I want to say that I am not trying to pick on Shelley at this point! I am responding cause I want to debate with my favorite debate partner! :D

Yes, she did say that she was sorry for the pain that Allison and her family are in. But, that does not lesson the pain the rest of her words caused. I agree that there are circumstances where one should address the consequences of another's actions, but Shelley is not Allison's mom, or her best friend, or a trusted family member. She's a stranger, and I do not believe her post was written out of care or concern for Allison, but because she wanted to express her frustration over the illegal immigration problem (correct me if I'm wrong, Shelley!). You say it was fair, and heck, maybe it was. But, it wasn't very nice.

[mood4amelody]

First of all, I want to say that I am not trying to pick on Shelley at this point! I am responding cause I want to debate with my favorite debate partner! :D

Yes, she did say that she was sorry for the pain that Allison and her family are in. But, that does not lesson the pain the rest of her words caused. I agree that there are circumstances where one should address the consequences of another's actions, but Shelley is not Allison's mom, or her best friend, or a trusted family member. She's a stranger, and I do not believe her post was written out of care or concern for Allison, but because she wanted to express her frustration over the illegal immigration problem (correct me if I'm wrong, Shelley!). You say it was fair, and heck, maybe it was. But, it wasn't very nice.

Allison opened herself up to something like this by posting on an internet forum, and even more so by marrying an illegal. (Sorry Allison! I know that you can't help who you love and that life does not make ideal situations for us to stumble into! I'm not trying to hurt you, and I will give you all the emotional support I can. It's just a fact that can't be changed.) One of my very best friends is married to someone here without the proper credentials as well. You can't change love, but you have to accept the consequences of it, as well.

If Shelley's words caused pain, then they were taken too personally and without any thought to the frustration that Shelley is obviously having with the whole thing. I think for the most part she stated facts about what the laws are in this country. If you find those painful, I guess some lobbying is in order. It's not right to say that Allison can let her emotions and feelings be on here, and not Shelley. For the most part, we are all strangers here, Chris. Any one of us here could be a kitten killer and who's the wiser? Odds are that someone in this forum beats there kids, and it could be anyone that we all "know and love'. This is the internet.

I still say to Allison, Shelley gave you her concern about your situation. Take that and be thankful. She gave it to you even though she does not approve of the situation because it is a violation of the laws of the country. I think that means a lot for her to say I care about you, even though I think that what went on was wrong. It's hard support someone you know is doing wrong, but Shelley did anyway, and she got really bashed for expressing why she felt it was wrong. Let's all try to be kinder and more understanding about how others feel.

To Chris - DITTO! Chickie!! lol

[bvanpeltsw]

I am going to add this and leave it alone. I do not agree with you Lynn. I think if someone wants to open their mouth and give their opinion then they need to be able to take criticism. Shelly kicked Allison when she was down and that was just rude. It goes along with the saying---if you do not have anything nice to say then do not say it at all. It will only cause more problems and make people feel bad.

[mom2fussbudgets]

Okay, my sister, I see your point. I'm just looking at it how I would handle it, I guess. No matter my personal opinion on the subject, I would never want to purposely hurt another human being with my words or opinion. :)

Love ya! Hugs. :)

[Motherofthree]

I would like for this thread to be closed and deleted, yes I put my self out there to be critized........My husband is doing the right thing now, he left when the judge tolde him to, he is in his country waiting for his green card, and when he gets that he will be able to come back legally....There are many reasons why I can NOT go there but I do not need to offer an explanation. I used to read this thread when I could and it always lifted my spirits, now it does the opposite..Thank you to all who did offer prayers and support.:(

[mom2fussbudgets]

I am going to add this and leave it alone. I do not agree with you Lynn. I think if someone wants to open their mouth and give their opinion then they need to be able to take criticism. Shelly kicked Allison when she was down and that was just rude. It goes along with the saying---if you do not have anything nice to say then do not say it at all. It will only cause more problems and make people feel bad.

I can see Lynne's point, but I don't agree with it. I tend to agree with you, Brandy. I think it's wrong to express an opinion knowing full well you'd hurt another person by expressing it.

[bvanpeltsw]

I would like for this thread to be closed and deleted, yes I put my self out there to be critized........My husband is doing the right thing now, he left when the judge tolde him to, he is in his country waiting for his green card, and when he gets that he will be able to come back legally....There are many reasons why I can NOT go there but I do not need to offer an explanation. I used to read this thread when I could and it always lifted my spirits, now it does the opposite..Thank you to all who did offer prayers and support.:(

I am sorry that things got so twisted Allison!:(

[mom2fussbudgets]

Allison has requested this thread be closed, and since she's the one who's mainly suffered as a result of it, I am honoring her request.

I hope all of us will think twice before we hit the submit reply button from now on (I include myself in this as well). We are not merely words on a message board, we are all real human beings with feelings. I'd like to request that we all try to have some more consideration for each other in the future.